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jack and joe incident
the incident was my fault i was on the brakes late and on my screen i avoyed u but my rear end must of hit u. but i dont see why i need to get a peanlty becasue u blame me for the crash between u jed and adam when i was know where near it. so thats were u got knocked off worse because u lost lots of places there .
in the crash i gained no advantge over u at all in either of these crashes and the only way i got past u was when u spun at turn 1and i went pass i think that a penalty would be very harsh and i do think that i should be given a warning and also u got 2 penaltys so i dont realy wana lose a place and points becasue there was more to the race than my crash
sorry but there was
in the crash i gained no advantge over u at all in either of these crashes and the only way i got past u was when u spun at turn 1and i went pass i think that a penalty would be very harsh and i do think that i should be given a warning and also u got 2 penaltys so i dont realy wana lose a place and points becasue there was more to the race than my crash
sorry but there was
topgearstig- Posts : 80
Join date : 2010-12-20
Re: jack and joe incident
there is the fact that u crashed into me and wiped me out i lost time to the others and this made me close to jed which led to a crash. bottom line u hit me. ur fault penalty should follow obviously u dont like it, its a ram i had nothing wrong as i have a slight look back its your front not rear its forward motion i travel in if the rears your rear touched mine it would of been sideways inccident. just hold ur hands up. i m not going to take part in a champ where ramming is acceptable
JOE-BAKER---4- Posts : 76
Join date : 2010-12-19
Age : 31
Location : worcester
Re: jack and joe incident
joe this has blown way out of preportion i dont wana take a penalty but i dont mind taking a five place grid penalty at malaysia as i dont wana lose 15 well batlled points but we both scored well even tho the conditions were bad. and this race was better than bahrain
topgearstig- Posts : 80
Join date : 2010-12-20
Re: jack and joe incident
This will be sorted on friday wen go on ps3 so ENOUGH i dont wanna see any more posts on the forum about this untill i talk to both of u on friday then we will see from there
Re: jack and joe incident
Andy u seem like the parent of the forum!
Teh Jeddler- Posts : 32
Join date : 2011-01-05
Age : 27
Re: jack and joe incident
Were all Entitled too an opinion andy, and I would like too say......
Fair Enough TGS did not mean to, we all get that.... Thing is, think from Joes perspective.
You get Hit, immediately, you will want too know who is responsible which you have too say is Understandable, Would you agree?
In racing if someone takes you out and does not recieve a penalty the rules need some SERIOUS changes, as One driver is putting another at a disadvantage WITHOUT A PENALTY?!?!?!?!?
This is despite the driver means it or not
So my verdict would be that TGS must recieve a penalty of some kind, I stongly suggest he gets demoted to 4th, Failing this he should recieve a Grid and time Penalty at the next race. But a grid penalty is not a sufficient, as it is not enough of a disadvantage, in my opinion
As for you Andy, you shouldnt be locking your mum in the bathroom and pissing on the toilet seat tbh
Incident was similar to this (except Joe was put into more of a disadvantage) And Adrianovrm was demoted behind the ferrari at the end of the race
Fair Enough TGS did not mean to, we all get that.... Thing is, think from Joes perspective.
You get Hit, immediately, you will want too know who is responsible which you have too say is Understandable, Would you agree?
In racing if someone takes you out and does not recieve a penalty the rules need some SERIOUS changes, as One driver is putting another at a disadvantage WITHOUT A PENALTY?!?!?!?!?
This is despite the driver means it or not
So my verdict would be that TGS must recieve a penalty of some kind, I stongly suggest he gets demoted to 4th, Failing this he should recieve a Grid and time Penalty at the next race. But a grid penalty is not a sufficient, as it is not enough of a disadvantage, in my opinion
As for you Andy, you shouldnt be locking your mum in the bathroom and pissing on the toilet seat tbh
Incident was similar to this (except Joe was put into more of a disadvantage) And Adrianovrm was demoted behind the ferrari at the end of the race
Last edited by Mclaren-F1__ on Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
Mclaren-F1__- Posts : 47
Join date : 2010-12-19
Age : 29
Re: jack and joe incident
I would also Like too say.... In Mos's Champ you will see one of these incidents every 5 races, Because everyone is SUPER CAUTIOUS when behind someone else (as if they were in multi-million pound machines, with there life in danger). Just be careful
Mclaren-F1__- Posts : 47
Join date : 2010-12-19
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Re: jack and joe incident
Mclaren-F1__ wrote:I would also Like too say.... In Mos's Champ you will see one of these incidents every 5 races, Because everyone is SUPER CAUTIOUS when behind someone else (as if they were in multi-million pound machines, with there life in danger). Just be careful
james im quoting so i can respond to u. i am annoyed cus we all say ohh its realistic or this could be improved, but at least the way we race should be realistic. we also need to talk about the safety car as me and you discussed in the race. the penalty i believe is 'caused an avoidable inccident' it was avoidable if he was driving with more caution in the conditions also every1 else avoided it i stopped for ben and adam at turn 1. you have to use your brain and realise in that split second. no more diiscussion friday it will be resolved and every1 should voice there opinion
JOE-BAKER---4- Posts : 76
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Age : 31
Location : worcester
Re: jack and joe incident
Mclaren-F1__ wrote:I would also Like too say.... In Mos's Champ you will see one of these incidents every 5 races, Because everyone is SUPER CAUTIOUS when behind someone else (as if they were in multi-million pound machines, with there life in danger). Just be careful
Thank you James this
Is what some people in here need to be told I would also like to add in glens incident he was given the place back after the race because he didn't get place back
Wen Joe spun at the safety car restart tgs was behind therefore tgs. Should. Only get a warning for causing a collsion like jonny. Any more from jonny or Jack will result in pen for hitting others to often
If tgs stayed infront of joe thn there would be a change in places but Joe spun after bein let through if Joe never spun we wouldn't be talkin about this as he would hav stayed in front
Finally my race edit won't upload:(
Re: jack and joe incident
GingerAndy96 wrote:Mclaren-F1__ wrote:I would also Like too say.... In Mos's Champ you will see one of these incidents every 5 races, Because everyone is SUPER CAUTIOUS when behind someone else (as if they were in multi-million pound machines, with there life in danger). Just be careful
Thank you James this
Is what some people in here need to be told I would also like to add in glens incident he was given the place back after the race because he didn't get place back
Wen Joe spun at the safety car restart tgs was behind therefore tgs. Should. Only get a warning for causing a collsion like jonny. Any more from jonny or Jack will result in pen for hitting others to often
If tgs stayed infront of joe thn there would be a change in places but Joe spun after bein let through if Joe never spun we wouldn't be talkin about this as he would hav stayed in front
Finally my race edit won't upload:(
If jonny gets away With it so should Jack there is clear favouritism involved jack and jonny are both on a final warning..... Jack still isn't out of it yet as some people hav said he blamed Jed for crash if this is true (which I will fin out on Friday ) HE will get sent to the back of the grid
Re: jack and joe incident
kk give him a warnin, the difference is johnny is more catious and has less crashes his was after the apex with tc on that acceleration, im not gettin rammed in a champ it was terrible an avoidable inccident just some1 tryin to get past to quickly without biding his time for a proper move to develop. its clear andy's mind is made up, so its unecessary to talk on fri. cba to do champ, gd luck james.
and u said wen joe spun i didnt spin i got spun its avoidable also in johnnys case there was a poll. favouritisicm both incidents were different they have been dealt with after differently
and u said wen joe spun i didnt spin i got spun its avoidable also in johnnys case there was a poll. favouritisicm both incidents were different they have been dealt with after differently
JOE-BAKER---4- Posts : 76
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Re: jack and joe incident
JOE-BAKER---4 wrote:kk give him a warnin, the difference is johnny is more catious and has less crashes his was after the apex with tc on that acceleration, im not gettin rammed in a champ it was terrible an avoidable inccident just some1 tryin to get past to quickly without biding his time for a proper move to develop. its clear andy's mind is made up, so its unecessary to talk on fri. cba to do champ, gd luck james.
and u said wen joe spun i didnt spin i got spun its avoidable also in johnnys case there was a poll. favouritisicm both incidents were different they have been dealt with after differently
thank you joe, although i did only get a warning (which i am greatful for) i still feel that mine and jacks collision wasnt my fault, im not saying it was his fault either. the circumstances in this collision are completely different though, topgear has said countless times about the conditions (which i completely agree with were very bad and we discussed over the mic during the race we thought in real life the race would have been red-flagged, if it would even been allowed to start) but under these conditions AND the fact that he had taken turn 3 in the conditions in the previous laps he SHOULD know the correct braking point, he should know fine well that he has to be very cautious braking.
i think everyone who reads this has to consider what ive said AND we cant let joe leave the championship, im going to be the first person to say this, joe, please dont leave
Jonneh-- Posts : 33
Join date : 2010-12-19
Age : 27
Location : Stewarton, Scotland
Re: jack and joe incident
Already said it in other post Jonney and I have taken matters into my own hands and given myself a penalty to stop everyone moaning end of c u in malyasia
topgearstig- Posts : 80
Join date : 2010-12-20
Re: jack and joe incident
topgearstig wrote:Already said it in other post Jonney and I have taken matters into my own hands and given myself a penalty to stop everyone moaning end of c u in malyasia
jack ur not getting a pen. what needs to come from this is u need to learn and not be so quik to overtake. thats the crucial thing cus u've been in alot of incidents lately. andy i have made my mind up i feel every1 should realise its a pen and if this happens in future then its a pen i may not be doing next few races anyway. its deffo a pen, an avoidable incident, in real f1 he would get 1 [b][i]but dont give jack a pen this time
JOE-BAKER---4- Posts : 76
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Age : 31
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Re: jack and joe incident
Ok thx but why u not doing any of the other races
topgearstig- Posts : 80
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Re: jack and joe incident
long story might be yettopgearstig wrote:Ok thx but why u not doing any of the other races
JOE-BAKER---4- Posts : 76
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Re: jack and joe incident
Having read what Jonny has said,
This occured on lap 2! Jonny has said that "he should no where braking point is because we went round 1 lap"
I was unaware of this I thought this was everyone finding a braking point ON LAP 1! which is stupid havin watched joes highlights.
Also what Joe said is correct that Mr stig that was ridiculos attempt at an overtake conditions have nothing to do with it as you should have known the braking point. It was a crazy lunge and what joe said is correct. Take ur time be cautious with lots of fuel on board
This occured on lap 2! Jonny has said that "he should no where braking point is because we went round 1 lap"
I was unaware of this I thought this was everyone finding a braking point ON LAP 1! which is stupid havin watched joes highlights.
Also what Joe said is correct that Mr stig that was ridiculos attempt at an overtake conditions have nothing to do with it as you should have known the braking point. It was a crazy lunge and what joe said is correct. Take ur time be cautious with lots of fuel on board
Re: jack and joe incident
So what's happening am i getting a penalty or not
topgearstig- Posts : 80
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Re: jack and joe incident
Heyyyy, uploaded my race higlights if guys want 2 c them plz 'like' the vid and 'favourite' it awsell, oh and dont forget to subscribe!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CtnUOMtgC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CtnUOMtgC4
Teh Jeddler- Posts : 32
Join date : 2011-01-05
Age : 27
Re: jack and joe incident
Has anyone including andy and Joe seen the vote results
topgearstig- Posts : 80
Join date : 2010-12-20
Re: jack and joe incident
andy it was on lap 3?GingerAndy96 wrote:Having read what Jonny has said,
This occured on lap 2! Jonny has said that "he should no where braking point is because we went round 1 lap"
I was unaware of this I thought this was everyone finding a braking point ON LAP 1! which is stupid havin watched joes highlights.
Also what Joe said is correct that Mr stig that was ridiculos attempt at an overtake conditions have nothing to do with it as you should have known the braking point. It was a crazy lunge and what joe said is correct. Take ur time be cautious with lots of fuel on board
Jonneh-- Posts : 33
Join date : 2010-12-19
Age : 27
Location : Stewarton, Scotland
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